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Oct 26 2007, 11:41 AM
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![]() ![]() Groep: MCNL Dev Berichten: 3,871 Sinds: 5-October 04 Van: Amsterdam Gebruiker Nr.: 1,322 |
Hi folks,
after some months of not not being able to work on and improve MCNLive I would like to announce officially my decision to stop with the development of MCNLive. The reasons are changes in my personal life, preferences about spending time. Creating LiveCD's based on Mandriva and working on the mklivecd scripts kept me very busy the last 4 years. It has been a great experience, in particular working together with testers and contributors was wonderful. MCNLive is the project of http://www.mandrivaclub.nl. And I hope you will find someone/people to take over from me and fill the gap. Help is really appreciated. --chris -------------------- |
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Oct 26 2007, 11:56 AM
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![]() ![]() Groep: MCNL Crew Berichten: 3,921 Sinds: 8-April 06 Van: Tuitjenhorn (ex-Warmetuuter) Gebruiker Nr.: 3,031 |
You're really quitting this time?
This is a huge misfortune for MCNL, the great amount of MCNLive users, and the other projects that depend on your mklivecd scripts (and I'm not only talking about FreevoLive). Hope someone will take over... Will you stay at MCNL anyway? Or will you be gone completely? (Slightly off topic: Maybe you could upload your latest scripts to the testserver, so others can give it a try?) -------------------- "Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it." [Linus B. Torvalds]
Registered Linux user #284053 | Avatar met dank aan PeterM | FreevoLive - forum | KFFR - Metal! | http://www.highking.nl |
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Oct 26 2007, 11:56 AM
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![]() ![]() Groep: MCNL Crew Berichten: 5,848 Sinds: 20-December 04 Van: Doetinchem Gebruiker Nr.: 1,536 |
I am very sorry to hear that, Chris. But there are more things in life that matter.
I hope you'll be fine and will be happy with the things you'll value the most. Bye, Chris. -------------------- "Take me home, United Road; To the place I belong; To Old Trafford, To see United; Take me home, United Road."
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Oct 26 2007, 12:39 PM
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![]() ![]() Groep: Root Admin Berichten: 6,053 Sinds: 17-September 03 Van: Pinguindorp Gebruiker Nr.: 2 |
Dear Chris,
I'm very sad to hear you'r stopping with MCNLive, altough i can understand I wanna thank you for all those beauty full releases you gave us in the last years. World wide, MCNLive has become the best Linux live CD you can get! Thanks Chris -------------------- Groetjes Gerard
Sysinfo: Intel Quad Core Q9650 @ 4.1 GHz, 4GB Memory, nVidia GTX 285 OC - 1GB memory, Soundblaster Audigy 2 |
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Oct 26 2007, 12:49 PM
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![]() ![]() Groep: Moderators Berichten: 2,243 Sinds: 12-May 04 Van: Tilburg Gebruiker Nr.: 831 |
Hi Chris,
Sorry to hear that you won't develop MCNLive anymore. I understand your reasons though. See you around the forum. |
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Oct 26 2007, 07:16 PM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 381 Sinds: 1-October 04 Van: Vught! Gebruiker Nr.: 1,305 |
Hi folks, after some months of not not being able to work on and improve MCNLive I would like to announce officially my decision to stop with the development of MCNLive. The reasons are changes in my personal life, preferences about spending time. Creating LiveCD's based on Mandriva and working on the mklivecd scripts kept me very busy the last 4 years. It has been a great experience, in particular working together with testers and contributors was wonderful. MCNLive is the project of http://www.mandrivaclub.nl. And I hope you will find someone/people to take over from me and fill the gap. Help is really appreciated. --chris Dear Chris, First of all, I am very sorry to hear you wont develop MCNLive anymore. Tough I have all respect for your reasons to get retired. I think I speak for all when I say: Good luck with your life, and we all hope to see you around. You have been one of the driving forces of MCNL. Those of us who followed school will have learned that everybody is replaceable. Well, I think this is not true. At last, not this time. You aren't replace-able. Thank you SO much for all your time, your dedication, and everything you've done for us, the MCNL members. As said before, good luck with your life, Best wishes, and love, Jeroen -------------------- |
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Oct 26 2007, 10:00 PM
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![]() ![]() Groep: Administrators Berichten: 4,564 Sinds: 12-March 04 Van: Reek Gebruiker Nr.: 514 |
I'm not happy; but i'll respect the reason why
-------------------- Willie
I'm on an endless mission to explore a strange new world |
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Oct 27 2007, 06:34 AM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 15 Sinds: 12-September 07 Gebruiker Nr.: 4,764 |
Kris, that's sad but this project is much work indeed. We are very grateful for all the hard work you put into this!
Now, how far have you gotten with getting the remaster script working for Mandriva 2008? Is there a possibility to try it out? Could you help us a bit in this transition process with you leaving the project? That would be great! How much of a team is there without Kris? Any chance to continue? |
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Oct 27 2007, 08:07 AM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 1,039 Sinds: 30-January 05 Van: Tienen Gebruiker Nr.: 1,688 |
Dear Kris,
Thanks for all the work you did. I hope the changes are for the good and wish you the very best. Beside making the live versions you where always ready to help people. Hope to hear you one this forum and not completely lose contact. With respect and friendly feelings Rayke -------------------- Fijne dag nog
Rayke In the end, there can be only one |
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Oct 27 2007, 08:43 AM
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![]() ![]() Groep: MCNL Crew Berichten: 3,159 Sinds: 20-February 06 Van: België Gebruiker Nr.: 2,910 |
Kris,
I'll respect your decision. Hopefully we will still see you on the forum. Sincerely MauRice -------------------- Registered Linux user: 473556
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly -> Linux, Windows en Dos http://www.mandrivaclub.be |
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Oct 27 2007, 09:28 AM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 192 Sinds: 11-July 05 Van: Oost-Vlaanderen Gebruiker Nr.: 2,278 |
Dear Chris,
Am feeling sad. Was waiting for your next masterpiece based om Mandirva 2008. Like to thank you for your kind answers to all my questions in the past. Wish to add that I fully respect your decision. Life is more than Linux or a LiveCD. Wishing you all the best. Georges. |
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Oct 27 2007, 10:20 AM
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![]() Groep: MCNL Crew Berichten: 5,635 Sinds: 7-November 03 Van: Achter de duinen Gebruiker Nr.: 44 |
Kris,
thanks for all your contributions, not only THE mandriva Live Cd but also on the forum. Hope we keep seeing you on the forum. My slogan: When you are living your life, we always remember your "Live!" RvP -------------------- * RvP = MCNL coördinator Evenementen * Dus jouw contactpersoon, als je iets wilt organiseren rondom Mandriva of MCNL.
Mandriva vs Micro$oft. Begrijp het heden, dus ken het verleden. Mandriva vs Micro$oft. Actual knowledge based on knowing the past. Micro$oft: 'A world without walls' versus Linux: 'Houses for everyone'. Pentium4 2.4Ghz_512MB, Mandriva2010.0_HD's 40GB en 80GB, saa7134 TV-kaart, grafische kaart: NVidia FX5200 Pentium4 2.931Ghz_1GB, Mandriva2010.1_HD's total nnnGB_GeForce7900GT256MB, 2 monitoren, parallel MustekCP600 + USB HP ScanJet3400C scanners, USB Webcam laptop M-Pentium-II 331Mhz_96MB_HD 6GB_with PuppyLinux 4.0.0 Other (kids) pc's in HomeLANd network: Dual/Quad Cores - 1Gig/2Gig/4Gig memory - much more HD Gigabytes and graphical power (necessary for their home work, I presume) |
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Oct 27 2007, 10:30 AM
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![]() ![]() Groep: Root Admin Berichten: 6,053 Sinds: 17-September 03 Van: Pinguindorp Gebruiker Nr.: 2 |
How much of a team is there without Kris? Any chance to continue? Kris is "the team" Maybe we can setup a real developpment team with Chris as a temporary team leader ? -------------------- Groetjes Gerard
Sysinfo: Intel Quad Core Q9650 @ 4.1 GHz, 4GB Memory, nVidia GTX 285 OC - 1GB memory, Soundblaster Audigy 2 |
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Oct 29 2007, 01:55 AM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 77 Sinds: 5-January 07 Gebruiker Nr.: 3,806 |
that darn LIFE always getting in the way.
i too find that without a happy medium something usually suffers a great deal. i think you inspired a lot of folks and its a shame you cant get MDV to cut you a check since you did beat them to market life love and happiness. j |
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Oct 29 2007, 02:42 AM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 15 Sinds: 12-September 07 Gebruiker Nr.: 4,764 |
I think MCNLive should definitely continue, maybe in a downscaled form. At the very least we should have a working new mklivecd script that works with Mandriva 2008 so people can do a remaster. Maybe Chris can indicate how far she got with getting it to run on the new version and if she would be willing to provide at least some transitional support?
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Nov 1 2007, 08:51 AM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 15 Sinds: 12-September 07 Gebruiker Nr.: 4,764 |
So.......no more replies......? Is this the end of MCNLive? No one willing to do something?
If not anything else, I reckon we could have a team that could pursue a minimal MCNLive concept: keep developing the mklivecd script and test it on new Mandriva versions, and if someone feels like using it to creating a specific MCNLive distro then that's fine. But that way at least people can keep building Mandriva live systems. If we don't have an mklivecd that works with Mandriva 2008 then we have nothing at all. Now I am not saying that I have the necessary skills but I would be willing to help where I can and test the script. What do people think? |
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Nov 1 2007, 09:02 AM
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![]() ![]() Groep: Moderators Berichten: 2,243 Sinds: 12-May 04 Van: Tilburg Gebruiker Nr.: 831 |
What i have heard is that it is nearly impossible to use the mklivecd scripts with 2008. 2008 is internally so different that the scripts have to be rewritten. I know Kris has tried but hasn't had much succes.
I guess we would need someone with the knowledge and experience of Kris to work on MCNLive. I know i am not that one. It will be hard to breath new live into MCNlive. |
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Nov 1 2007, 04:42 PM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 3,845 Sinds: 22-September 03 Gebruiker Nr.: 12 |
Hi Chris,
I think you did a real good job in the past four years. Although I didn't do any testing the last years, I want to thank you for all your fantastic work. You deserve a lot off respect and you have mine. Hope to see you sometime in the future. Alain -------------------- Nederlands en Belgisch [k]ubuntu forum
A scientist has calculated that there is a 67% chance that God exists. |
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Nov 2 2007, 04:05 PM
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Groep: Members Berichten: 77 Sinds: 5-January 07 Gebruiker Nr.: 3,806 |
What i have heard is that it is nearly impossible to use the mklivecd scripts with 2008. 2008 is internally so different that the scripts have to be rewritten. I know Kris has tried but hasn't had much succes. I guess we would need someone with the knowledge and experience of Kris to work on MCNLive. I know i am not that one. It will be hard to breath new live into MCNlive. actually according to the guys at MDV.com they arent using mklivecd anymore, I had a note a few months ago about what they were using, and for the life of me I cant find it anymore. I'm sure if i asked over there, they could tell me, but i believe its a set of tools desiged for MDV, the issue is that there isnt ANY kind of documentation at all on this new toolset. j |
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Nov 2 2007, 04:08 PM
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![]() ![]() Groep: MCNL Crew Berichten: 3,921 Sinds: 8-April 06 Van: Tuitjenhorn (ex-Warmetuuter) Gebruiker Nr.: 3,031 |
You're talking about the draklive scripts. That's what Mandriva is using nowadays.
The problem with that, is that it's very badly documented, and that a lot of features of the mklivecd scripts are not available in draklive (things we all love, like copy2ram, the options that made MCNLive so much better then MDV One). -------------------- "Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it." [Linus B. Torvalds]
Registered Linux user #284053 | Avatar met dank aan PeterM | FreevoLive - forum | KFFR - Metal! | http://www.highking.nl |
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