I tried out Toronto and it is GREAT. It seem to boot faster than Virtualcity...

One annoying thing: the KDE main menu doubles the action section, so I have two find, two recent documents, two system menu items etc. Any idea how to change that?

Hmm, I have had this problem once with a beta of 2007.0. And I had no idea why it was like that.
Of course, you can change it manually.
In kcontrol => Desktop => Panels => menus => optional menus
(I hope its like that because I have the Dutch version )
But that doesn't solve your problem when you're using the livecd. (after a reboot you will have the problem again of course )
You could remaster it with the new preferences in kcontrol. But I know, this is more a work-around than solving the 'bug'.

Maybe kris knows more about this

It's a unionfs thing. Somewhere/somehow the dir where the menu is stored is doubled.
Sometimes it happens, sometimes it does not. Sometimes it goes away after a remaster, sometimes it stays.
I don't know the solution.

Well, it's nice that at least one can try to solve the issue...

I am having two really strange and annoying problems.

The first one I already had with Virtualbox. Whenever I start a GUI program from a root konsole (such as e.g. kwrite), I get a delay of a few seconds and then these error messages:

DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
kbuildsycoca running...
kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/union/usr/share/applications/mandriva-gurpmi.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-urpmi'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/union/usr/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
...
...


The second problem I got with one remaster of Toronto. Suddenly, the MCC won't start from the KDE menu anymore (it is set to run as root). It will only start when I type mcc in a root konsole. And if I have a root konsole window open while I try to start MCC from the menu, the konsole window suddenly shows this error message four times: "kded: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher". I haven't been able to find any helpful information via google, either.

I also frequently get this error pasted into a root konsole at random times: "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 10295, errno = 0
"

Help will be much appreciated ! Toronto is great, just this has been annoying.

Willie: can you split this topic? Start a new one from # 10 ....

Yes, this probably should be a different topic. I have been having various stability problems with Toronto, mostly related to klauncher as indicated above. Sometimes when I launch the MCC it gets stuck in the loading stage, the "kded: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher" error message shows, and then various other system functions act funny, too. A real pity because I think Toronto is a great system and worth upgrading to.

Can a admin or mod please split this topic ???????

And adrian: can you please stop to post in this topic. This is the announcement of Toronto.

And here is the answer.

We had around 10.000. downloads and users of Toronto the last 4 weeks. You are the only one with this problem, so far.

* You have a bad download.
* You have a bad burn, corrupted cd medium
* You made a remaster that is completely broken - for example by installing weird stuff, running funny scripts in the background or something like this.

Don't answer here, please.

Shoot away, Adrian.
A moderator had merci

* You have a bad download.

I checked the md5sum and it was fine

* You have a bad burn, corrupted cd medium

I never run from CD but copy the files directly to my USB drive

* You made a remaster that is completely broken - for example by installing weird stuff, running funny scripts in the background or something like this.

Certainly possible, would be great to find out why though!

The "DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket" issue definitely was already there with the original non-remastered download. I don't run funny scripts in the background at the moment. What I installed was Openoffice (removed KOffice), Google Earth, audioconverter, Firefox and Thunderbird, Kaffeine, Skype, and recently Virtualbox 1.4. All Mandriva rpms except for the latter (but both problems existed before installing Virtualbox).

But strange that no one else is having this problem...

When you are starting as root in a konsole a program, you will get verbose messages. This is not critical - if the application is running ok.
(If you are annoyed by these messages, then you would need to login as root in the GUI, run all programs once as root user, configure the root account etc)

Normally you would start a programm as root by typing (example kwrite): kdesu kwrite
in the 'run command' field in the panel, not in a konsole.

Launching the Mandriva Control Center is done either by just typing mcc (not kdesu mcc) in the 'run command', or by clicking the icon in the panel. In the menu the MCC is called by: /usr/sbin/drakconf
(you start it as user, not as su, it will ask you automatically to give the root password)

>Normally you would start a programm as root by typing (example kwrite):
> kdesu kwrite in the 'run command' field in the panel, not in a konsole.

Thanks, that's useful to know, and also that these error messages are normal. I haven't had the klaunch error in a while now, also had it occasionally under Virtualcity. I never managed to resolve the mcc start problem (it would start from a konsole window but not from the KDE menu) and so I restarted from scratch. Thanks for taking your time to look at this.